*facestabby*

[taleya]

From an article purporting to break the STAGGERING news that THE CREATOR of DOCTOR WHO Sydney Newman said the ONLY way to save the show would be to MAKE HIM A WOMAN!!!!


...yeah, ol' skoolers know exactly how many things are wrong with that above sentence.

But this bit from the article really, really pissed me off:

The UK Resource Centre for Women in Science, Engineering and Technology yesterday called on the BBC to finally realise Mr Newman's vision and ensure that the current Doctor, Matt Smith, is succeeded by a woman.

Jane Butcher, the centre's assistant director, said: "Having a high-profile TV character such as Doctor Who being played by a female would raise the profile of women in science and would help convince young women that they can make an important contribution, both as scientists and as leaders."

How the FUCK does that help women be convinced they can stand on their own make a contribution rah rah vag power if the only fucking way they can make it popular is by STEALING A MALE ROLE? Stop trying to ride the coattails of things that are popular and stand on your own two goddamn feet, you stupid bint! You're practically the antithesis of feminism at this point!

"WAAAAAH WE AIN'T POPULAR ENOUGH. MAKE US POPULAR BY LOPPING OFF MALE CHARACTERS TESTICLES. MAKE THEM LIKE US."

2081, anyone?

Try making your own character that isn't shit. Maybe that would help. It certainly worked for Sam Carter, "Bones" Brennan, Susan Calvin, Jordan Cavanaugh, Zira, Ellen Ripley, Liz Shaw and a host of others.

Twat.

Comments

[siamesegoth2.livejournal.com]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

Fucking morons. What happened to using initiative and ya know, paving your own fucking way into recognition ? Jesus Christ, how do us mere mortals do it? Not by weeping over our (insert girly activity or petri dish here) and bewailing the fact that the mean men have EVERYTHING.

Sometimes, just sometimes, people like this make me wish I was born with a penis.

[jagwire.livejournal.com]

This is why I lubs my Leya.

[taleya.livejournal.com]

Real equality means the equal chance to succeed AND fail. To shoulder your own weight. No free rides, no special considerations, even playing field.

It's the stupid twats who can't hack it and demand that everything be handed to them on a platter that drive me insane. The amount of damage they do to themselves and others is incalculable. Plus the rampant misandry makes my teeth ache.

You. Out of my gender. Now.

[jagwire.livejournal.com]

Add Sarah Connor to your list of rad females. I've had a mega crush on that character since I saw T2.

[taleya.livejournal.com]

Oh god. her guns in that.....I would spend hours licking them. Combined with that ponytail and hat and cammo combo when she goes to murder Dyson?

guhhhhhhhhh

[jagwire.livejournal.com]

Oh yes. Tough, capable, sexy, strong, smart... What is not to like there?

[sacred-chao.livejournal.com]

I want to see this posted somewhere that respondants would have no idea of your gender just to see how many wild assumptions were made. Oh, and add Honor Harrington and a number of female characters in the Miles Vorkosigan series.

[taleya.livejournal.com]

Blame my parents. I mentioned the article to my sister (bug) and she pretty much said the same coattails line word for word :P

[the-s-guy.livejournal.com]

There needs to be more Susan Calvin. She needs her own TV series.

[taleya.livejournal.com]

Some don't like Calvin as an example because she was, lets face it, supremely fucked up.

I like her BECAUSE of that. Because the idea that female characters can't be deeply flawed but only perfect perfect figures is even more fucking insulting.

[ryttu3k.livejournal.com]

Aaaaghhh. No, you don't need to make the Doctor a woman because the Doctor is one character who happens to be male. Want a strong scientific female role model? MAKE ONE YOURSELF.

Oh, and add Ellie Arroway to your list of awesome characters? Protagonist of Contact, brilliant scientist, gets to hang out with aliens. I <3 her. (Which is why I raged so hard at the movie. There's one character, Palmer Joss, who Ellie has a partially antagonistic/rivalling relationship with, with an implication of some romantic attraction at the end. In the movie, he's promoted to full-on love interest and secondary main character - because god forbid a sci fi movie have a female protagonist - and actually tries to stop her from travelling in the Machine (to meet aliens! Her DREAM!) because he doesn't want her to go. Movie!Ellie just goes "OH YOU" and gets cuddly. Book!Ellie would have kicked him in the groin and gone, "FUCK YOU, I'M GOING AND YOU'RE NOT STOPPING ME.")

...Anyway. Sorry >.> I like book!Ellie.

ETA: Oh, hey XD Someone uses almost the exact phrasing.

How about when Joss told Ellie that he threw her the God question at the review meeting just to keep her from going on the Machine and thus leaving him, possibly forever? Ellie's reaction should have been to punch Joss' lights out, not look at him with weepy eyes of tenderness and gratitude. Why? Because her true life devotion was making contact with an ETI, not this pretty boy, New Age rhetoric-spouting preacher whom she slept with only once and barely knew before then. Maybe Joss thought he was in love with her, but the only real man in Ellie's life was long dead. Joss took away her one (at the time) chance at meeting ETI/Dad. Forget that Ellie would have been killed instead of Drumlin if she had won the seat the first time. Neither of them could predict that incident. Joss stole her dream for his own selfish reasons and that should have made Ellie madder than hell. Instead she looks at him with an expression of love which I have a hard time believing could ever exist between two characters who probably have little more than a physical attraction to each other. Hardly a reason to lose a goal like being the first person to contact an advanced alien civilization.

[ostarella.livejournal.com]

I attended a convention a few years ago which had a panel composed of female actors. All were so excited because there were more and more strong female characters in movies and television. The discussion then devolved into whining because females needed more mentors to help them get into various positions behind the cameras...

Apparently we only want to watch strong females and not be them - which, in this case, would mean developing a new show instead of imposing on an already successful one...

[taleya.livejournal.com]

I like to remind people on occasion (usually when they pull out the "you ain't a girl" card) that my parents raised WOMEN, not girls.

We were brought up knowing our worth was in what we could do, not what lay between our legs. And that whining wouldn't accomplish shit - get off your arse and damned well do it, or shut up.

I don't agree with some of the methods, but I must admit they did work quite effectively in most of their children :P

[ostarella.livejournal.com]

My parents were like that. I'd come whining to them about some problem and it was, "Well, what are you going to do about it?".

They took all the fun out of whining! LOL

[nicodeimus.livejournal.com]

And if he ever did become a woman, it would only be a platform for ridiculous 'oh these trousers used to be a lot tighter in the front' gags. *headdesk*

[the-s-guy.livejournal.com]

And yet... I actually wouldn't mind seeing a canon female Doctor, if only for a short time (say, something involving regenerative abilities of Time Lords doesn't go as expected). There have been hints dropped here and there that it is actually possible for Gallifreyans to change sex during regeneration, so playing the matter out could make for a fun story arc, if handled right.

[taleya.livejournal.com]

Unbound and Curse of the Fatal Death.

It's been done.

[the-s-guy.livejournal.com]

Yeeees, technically. I was thinking of a non-spoof, non-audio-only version, though.

[taleya.livejournal.com]

unfortunately it can really only seriously be addressed in the audios purely for the nature of it.

Especially in the UK. Everyone loves the big fat tranny. It would end up derailing itself just out of sheer habit.

[ostarella.livejournal.com]

Unfortunately, the channel that shows Dr Who over here doesn't always show them in order, but there was one episode with "Doctor Donna". Granted, that was an aberration but I didn't care for it at all. I would also worry that the Doctor's caustic side (which they all have had) would come out as plain bitchiness in a female (writers do seem to have a hard time with that sort of thing).

I just don't see any need for a female Doctor. I haven't always been fond of the actors portraying him, but I'm quite sure I would lose all interest if he were a she...

[soulmetal.livejournal.com]

Awesome post. That sort of 'feminism' is sickening.