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The more I think about it, the more pissed I am at the government definition of marriage. (moreso than usual)

The one that denies legitimate couples a basic fucking right.

The one that legally must be cited at my marriage as part of the ceremony.

On this, of all days, I am NOT going to pander to your stupid, senseless, arrogant bigotry. The more I think about it, the more pissed I get. At the moment I'm pretty damned well thermonuclear. By the time the actual ceremony rolls around I will be SETTING SHIT ON FIRE

Date: 2011-05-13 06:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taleya.livejournal.com
The celebrant's actually a really nice guy, it's just his balls are in a vice.

This has to be stated at some point in the ceremony for teh wedding to be legally recognised:

Before you, X and you, Y, are joined together in marriage in my presence and in the presence of these witnesses, I must remind you of the serious and permanent nature of the relationship you are now formalising.

Marriage, according to law in Australia, is the union of a man and a woman to the exclusion of all others, voluntarily entered into for life.


Thankfully it doesn't have to include the full amendment, or the marriage would never fucking happen:

Certain unions are not marriages. A union solemnised in a foreign country between: (a) a man and another man; or (b) a woman and another woman; must not be recognised as a marriage in Australia.

In 2004 the Marriage Act was amended to expressly state that unions between same-sex couples entered into outside the country were not to be recognised as marriage in Australia. Civil celebrants were conducting commitment ceremonies for same-sex couples, but The federal government introduced a registration system making prospective celebrants undergo "Government-approved training" and meet specific criteria set by the Attorney-General's Department to be declared a "fit and proper person" to hold the office of marriage celebrant. Whch, incidentally, meant a registered celebrant was not permitted to conduct legally binding commitment ceremonies for same-sex couples, although they may conduct non-legally binding ceremonies as long as both the couple and those attending are under no 'illusion' that the ceremony is a legal marriage.

In other words: "You can marry if you want you silly queers. Go overseas! Go where it's legal! We don't care, we won't recognise it anyway."

It's a sick fucking law and I want it dead. Having to have this bullshit woven into our marriage flat out digusts me.
Edited Date: 2011-05-13 06:36 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-05-13 07:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-s-guy.livejournal.com
I'd prefer something akin to "the union of two sapient beings defined and/or recognised as adults, or otherwise legally able to consent to said union".

Doesn't specify sex (physical, mental, or legal), doesn't specify that it has to be to the exclusion of all others, isn't limited to particular timeframes.

As an interesting side effect, it wouldn't actually prohibit multi-partner marriages, although they would be technically recorded on paper as a related set of two-person marriages. You could even have A married to B who was married to C, with A and C choosing whether or not to be married to each other or not, completely independently of anything else. A and C could even marry and then divorce without affecting their respective marriages to B.

Date: 2011-05-13 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jade-mushroom.livejournal.com
[just gnashes teeth]

Date: 2011-05-14 01:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] f-m-r-l.livejournal.com
I don't think there's a state in America that mandates that during the ceremony marriage must be declared an exclusive union between a man and a woman. Then again, if the government here started mandating marriage vows, most of the religions would be up in arms.
Edited Date: 2011-05-14 01:15 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-05-14 03:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] collegeanna19.livejournal.com
Good fucking christ. I'll ship Dad's rifles overseas and we can beat the fuckers to death. I can't shoot for shit.

At least the celebrant is a nice dude otherwise. Poor guy, having to read this shit.

Date: 2011-05-16 03:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cutebutpsycho99.livejournal.com
*frothing* THAT'S JUST BULLSHIT.

WTF? Course we can't really talk given our amendments to state constitutions and such.

If you want, we got the swords and armor here.

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